{"id":35,"date":"2016-02-15T17:46:38","date_gmt":"2016-02-15T17:46:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/?p=35"},"modified":"2023-03-01T17:22:39","modified_gmt":"2023-03-01T17:22:39","slug":"getting-the-right-ideas-for-the-performance-interview-with-mattias-andersson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/getting-the-right-ideas-for-the-performance-interview-with-mattias-andersson\/","title":{"rendered":"Getting the Right Ideas for the Performance  Interview with Mattias Andersson"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\">Interviewed by <strong>Randy Gener<\/strong><a href=\"#end1\"><sup>[1]<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-41\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1319047641.png\" alt=\"1319047641\" width=\"250\" height=\"164\" \/><br \/>\n<em>Born in 1969, Mattias Andersson &#8211; <\/em><em>playwright, director and artistic director of Backa Teater of G\u00f6teborg (Sweden) &#8211; <\/em><em>trained as an actor at the G\u00f6teborg Academy of Music and Drama. Between 1990 and 1993, he was an actor at Backa Teater, which is <\/em><em>part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg (Sweden\u2019s second city). He started as a playwright and director as well in 1993.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Presently, Andersson is the artistic director of Backa Teater, which is part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg (Sweden\u2019s second city). Backa Teater was formed in 1978 with Eva Bergman, a director, and Ulf Dohlsten, an actor, as artistic directors. Alexander \u00d6berg, director, was the artistic leader for Backa Theatre from 2000 to 2006. The performances at Backa Theatre are geared toward theatre for children and young people. In 1997 Backa Theatre was the first theatre to be promoted as a national stage for children&#8217;s theatre for three years by the Swedish government. The group has also been invited to several festivals all over the world. At Backa, Andersson has specialized in creating and staging theatrical projects grounded in sociological research methods. Examples include <\/em>The Mental States of Gothenburg<em>, about the lives and dreams of young people; <\/em>The Gangs of Gothenburg<em>, based largely on interviews with G\u00f6teborg\u2019s criminal elements; and an adaptation of <\/em>Crime and Punishment<em> (part of a three-play project involving the Fyodor Dostoyevsky novel), in which Andersson placed the Russian novel in modern times and in a setting that could just as easily have been G\u00f6teborg as St. Petersburg.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Andersson\u2019s own plays include <\/em>In a Dark and Northern Place; Sex, Drugs and Violence<em>; <\/em>Outside My Window; The Government Still Yearning Towards Something Beyond the Mountains; The Invisible Man Returns; Dom; K + M + R + L; St. John;<em> and <\/em>Beyond is the Sea<em>. These and other plays have been performed at venues such as Stockholm City Theatre, the Royal Dramatic Theatre of Stockholm, G\u00f6teborg City Theatre, Malm\u00f6 Dramatic Theatre and in countries including Norway, Poland, Denmark, Germany, Romania and Serbia. He was nominated for the Nordic Playwrights\u2019 Prize in 2006 and won the Ibsen Prize in 2007. He won the Expressen theatrical award in 2007 for his production of <\/em>Crime and Punishment<em>, received the Swedish Theatre Critic\u2019s Award in 2007, and was nominated for the Dagens Nyheter cultural award.<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1. In your country or city, is there any major issue (for example, a contemporary social problem) that artists have failed or neglected to address on stage? Why? Is it because of censorship, or a blind spot in the community&#8217;s collective perception of the world? A community\u2019s consciously or unconsciously turning a blind eye?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I wouldn\u2019t say that there is a certain issue that\u2019s taboo or too sensitive to discuss within the Swedish cultural life. But there are of course subjects that are dealt with in a stereotypical, shallow or unspecific way, mainly because the originators lack firsthand experience of the environments and problems they try to describe. It\u2019s also connected to the homogeneity in class background, ethnicity, and etc, among the Swedish theatre makers.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_42\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-42\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-42\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1330127421.png\" alt=\"Ossman Ntuve, Mohammed Semmo in The Gangs of Gothenburg, written and directed by Mattias Andersson \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]\" width=\"500\" height=\"328\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1330127421.png 500w, https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1330127421-300x197.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-42\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ossman Ntuve, Mohammed Semmo in The Gangs of Gothenburg, written and directed by Mattias Andersson \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote><p>In what ways is the theatre situation in Gothenburg the same or different from Stockholm\u2019s? Would the audiences from abroad recognize the similarities and differences?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Since Gothenburg is more of an industrial town and has more of a working-class character, I would say that you have to work much harder for the audience to come at all to the theaters. The number of people who go to the theatre just because it\u2019s a part of their social rituals is much bigger in Stockholm, so in Gothenburg you really must try to find subjects and a form of theatre that would attract people with not-so-much-of-an-idea of what theatre is about. This really attracts me, because I therefore have to stretch myself to get the right ideas for my performances and also to aesthetically try to find a scenic form that is provocative, attractive, surprising, involving and emotional but which does not refer to other theatre performances. I think and hope that audiences from abroad can recognize this.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>2. What, if anything, is difficult for you in communicating with the director? Why? How early and how often do you exchange views about the coming production? Have you directed yourself, and if so, does that make communication easier?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Most of the time I direct my own pieces. And I used to say that what I cannot solve as a playwright I solve as a director, and what I cannot solve as a director I try to solve as a playwright.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Let me be more specific. Why do you continue to do works using the interview process (<em>Gangs of Goteburg<\/em>, <em>Mental States of Goteburg<\/em> and <em>Crime and Punishment<\/em>)? What do you get from the interview process that would be different from a purely fictional play?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The clash between the documentary and the fictional interests me a great lot. To bring in documentary interviews in an art form that in itself never can be documentary (in a way that, for instance, film can because of its representing and reproducing character). The theatre as an art form is also always bound in time and space\u2014meaning the specific age and specific place or town or society in which a specific performance is taking place. I have, in the last years, taken a great interest in the part of the audience and its relation to the piece. In this process I have learnt that using documentary material or interviews from the actual place where the audience is living, adds even more charge to the scenic experience and creates a greater involvement in the piece. Even in the cases where the starting point was a classic, like Fyodor Dostoyevsky\u00b4s <em>Crime and Punishment<\/em>, I added parts based on documentary material from the reality of young people\u2019s lives in the Gothenburg of today.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_40\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-40\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-40\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1298751349.png\" alt=\"Ossman Ntuve, Mohammed Semmo, Bahar Pars, Bo Stenholm, Anna Harling, Kjell Wilhelmsen, Michael Greenberg, Daniel Ekborg, Anders Blad, Bahador Foladi in The Gangs of Gothenburg, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2009 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]\" width=\"500\" height=\"334\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1298751349.png 500w, https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1298751349-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-40\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ossman Ntuve, Mohammed Semmo, Bahar Pars, Bo Stenholm, Anna Harling, Kjell Wilhelmsen, Michael Greenberg, Daniel Ekborg, Anders Blad, Bahador Foladi in The Gangs of Gothenburg, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2009 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote><p>3. In your creative process, which bit do you enjoy least? Why? How do you tackle it?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The first week of rehearsal with the actors. I just sit there and wait them out, trying not to impose my ideas of the different scenes too strongly on them. I want them to get more familiar and comfortable with the material, so I try not to say too much, and not to push them too hard into any certain aesthetic direction. Which actually is quite boring for me.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_43\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-43\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-43\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1369204587.png\" alt=\"Ylva Gallon in A Dark and Northern Place, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2005 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]\" width=\"350\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1369204587.png 350w, https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1369204587-300x203.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-43\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ylva Gallon in A Dark and Northern Place, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2005 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]<\/figcaption><\/figure>But on the other hand it&#8217;s also quite interesting and inspiring to just sit there and observe them in their first sensitive steps and moves.<\/p>\n<p>The way to tackle this period is to create a climate where all the participants of the projects really feel emotionally and intellectually involved in what we are going to tell the audience. And for me\u2014at this point, I have worked for so much longer a period of time with the material than the actors\u2014I try to be open for all the new perspectives that now come in and, hopefully, I get surprised by some new angle I haven\u2019t yet explored.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_39\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-39\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-39\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1258090868.png\" alt=\"Mats Blomgren, Anders Blad in A Dark and Northern Place, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2005 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]\" width=\"500\" height=\"330\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1258090868.png 500w, https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1258090868-300x198.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-39\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mats Blomgren, Anders Blad in A Dark and Northern Place, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2005 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote><p>4. During your career, have you received a particularly insightful piece of criticism? When was that? Do you remember it well enough to quote? What was so important about it?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Criticism is very important for our art form to be taken seriously in the cultural debate and to preserve its possibility to speak about contemporary issues in a complex and profound way. The kind of criticism that makes you the happiest isn\u2019t primarily the one that praises what you do but the one that has understood and then describes what you\u2019ve been trying to stage. It\u2019s about the linguistic formulations of the critic that somehow corresponds to the tone or color of the performance.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve received some of those, even if I can\u2019t quote any of them now.<\/p>\n<p>As a psychological mechanism, criticism is, of course, a very sensitive issue. You give your life for something for maybe more than a year, and the very day after you&#8217;ve showed it to an audience for the first time\u2014the premi\u00e8re\u2014you\u2019re supposed to open the newspaper and receive the judgment on whether it worked out or not. There is an immense vulnerability. Quite a long time has to pass after the premi\u00e8re before you as an originator can perceive the larger patterns in how your piece was actually understood\u2014as well as how your performance was actually received.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_36\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-36\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-36\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1124429354.png\" alt=\"Ylva Gallon, Joel Kinnaman in Crime and Punishment, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2009 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]\" width=\"500\" height=\"324\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1124429354.png 500w, https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1124429354-300x194.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-36\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ylva Gallon, Joel Kinnaman in Crime and Punishment, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2009 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_37\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-37\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-37\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1248642461.png\" alt=\"Joel Kinnaman in Crime and Punishment, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2009 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]\" width=\"500\" height=\"332\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1248642461.png 500w, https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1248642461-300x199.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-37\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joel Kinnaman in Crime and Punishment, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2009 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_38\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-38\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-38\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1256768882.png\" alt=\"Joel Kinnaman in Crime and Punishment, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2009 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]\" width=\"500\" height=\"321\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1256768882.png 500w, https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1256768882-300x193.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-38\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joel Kinnaman in Crime and Punishment, written and directed by Mattias Andersson, 2009 \u00a9 Ola Kjelbye [Courtesy of Backa Teater, part of G\u00f6teborg City Theatre in G\u00f6teborg, Sweden]<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-44\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/3\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/02\/1085344345-150x150.png\" alt=\"1085344345\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a name=\"end1\"><\/a>[1] <strong>Randy Gener<\/strong> is a writer, editor, critic, playwright and visual artist in New York City. He recently debuted a photographic installation-art exhibition, <em>In the Garden of One World<\/em>, at New York\u2019s La MaMa La Galleria and is the author of <em>Love Seats for Virginia Woolf<\/em> and other Off-Broadway plays. He is the 2009 winner of the George Jean Nathan Award, the highest accolade for dramatic criticism in the United States for his essays in <em>American Theatre<\/em><em>magazine<\/em>, published by Theatre Communications Group, where is the senior editor. He was named Journalist of the Year 2010 by the National Lesbian &amp; Gay Journalists Association.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 14px;\">Copyright <strong>\u00a9<\/strong> 2010 Randy Gener<br \/>\n<em>Critical Stages\/Sc\u00e8nes critiques<\/em> e-ISSN: 2409-7411<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/4.0\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/88x31.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"88\" height=\"31\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 14px;\">This work is licensed under the<br \/>\nCreative Commons Attribution International License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interviewed by Randy Gener[1] Born in 1969, Mattias Andersson &#8211; playwright, director and artistic director of Backa Teater of G\u00f6teborg (Sweden) &#8211; trained as an actor at the G\u00f6teborg Academy of Music and Drama. 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