{"id":80,"date":"2019-04-14T18:32:43","date_gmt":"2019-04-14T18:32:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/?p=80"},"modified":"2023-03-01T16:39:56","modified_gmt":"2023-03-01T16:39:56","slug":"reflecting-on-cairos-international-festival-for-contemporary-and-experimental-theatre-interview-with-dina-amin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/reflecting-on-cairos-international-festival-for-contemporary-and-experimental-theatre-interview-with-dina-amin\/","title":{"rendered":"Reflecting on Cairo\u2019s International Festival for Contemporary and Experimental Theatre: Interview with Dina Amin"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">by<strong> Savas Patsalidis<\/strong><a href=\"#end\" name=\"back\">*<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/Armin.jpg?resize=181%2C225&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-93\" width=\"181\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/Armin.jpg?resize=241%2C300&amp;ssl=1 241w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/Armin.jpg?w=300&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 181px) 100vw, 181px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Dina Amin<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Cairo\u2019s International Festival for Contemporary and Experimental Theatre<strong> (<\/strong>CIFCET<strong>)<\/strong> is a noncompetitive annual festival funded by the Ministry of Culture of the Arab Republic of Egypt. As stated on its website, its mission is \u201cto create a forum for communication and dialogue among diverse populations and communities by means of the various forms of theatre and performance. It aims to introduce the latest developments in the international theatre scene to Egyptian and Arab audiences, while also serving as a platform for local and regional theatre productions for the benefit of specialists and interested festivals from all over the world.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"296\" height=\"170\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/1.LOGO_.jpg?resize=296%2C170&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-81\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The logo of Cairo\u2019s International Festival for Contemporary and Experimental Theatre. Photo: From the Festival\u2019s Facebook site<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>It is considered one of the\nmost important festivals established in the Arab world. It was launched in 1988\nand, according to the Minister of Culture of those days, Farouk Hosni, its aim\nfrom the start was \u201cto deepen the idea of dialogue and of accepting the other\nand to create a space that [would allow] for the free play of passions and the\nimagination.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Following the collapse of\nthe Mubarak regime, the Festival ceased to operate, just like many other state\ninstitutions. Five years later, and after long and heated discussions, the\nFestival came back to life, this time carrying the word \u201ccontemporary\u201d on its\ntitle to differentiate itself from its earlier association with the Mubarak\nregime and, at the same time, to indicate its new course which, in the words\nof its new protagonists, was \u201cto broaden the space for mutual understanding\u201d and\nto \u201cintroduce the latest developments in the international theatre scene to\nEgyptian and Arab audiences.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first edition of the revised Festival was announced\nin 2015 and launched in 2016. The Festival now hosts about 20-25 productions in\neach edition. One third comes from Egypt and the rest from the Arab and the\nWestern world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dina Amin, its artistic director, was on the\nFestival\u2019s first five-member executive committee, established in 2014.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"432\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/2.President.jpg?resize=700%2C432&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-82\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/2.President.jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/2.President.jpg?resize=300%2C185&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">President of CIFCET, Sameh Mahran, addressing the guests of the Festival\u2019s opening night 2018. Photo: Adel Sabri, courtesy of the Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Dina is also a stage director and an Associate Professor of Drama and Performance at Cairo University\u2019s English Department, Faculty of Arts. She is the author of <em>Alfred Farag and Egyptian Theatre<\/em> (2008), co-editor of <em>Salaam: Anthology of Middle-Eastern-American Drama<\/em> (2009) and <em>From Orientalists to Arabists: The Shifts in Arabic Literary Studies<\/em>, <em>Journal of Arabic Literature<\/em> (2010). Dina holds a PhD in Dramatic Literature from the University of Pennsylvania and an MFA in Directing from Carnegie Mellon University. She is the recipient of the West Coast Drama Clan Award (in honor of William Ball) for best director at CMU for her production of Ibsen\u2019s <em>A Lady from the Sea<\/em>. She directs in both the U.S. and Egypt, in Arabic and English. Her most recent production in Cairo is <em>Al-Farafir<\/em> (<em>Flip Flop and His Master<\/em>, 2017), <em>Arden<\/em> (an Egyptian adaptation of <em>A Midsummer Night\u2019s Dream<\/em>, 2016), <em>Matsanafneesh<\/em> (<em>Don\u2019t Label Me<\/em>, 2015), and <em>Segn al-Nisaa<\/em> (<em>Women\u2019s Prison<\/em>) by FatHeyyah al-`Assa (2013).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I first met Dina in\nThessaloniki (Greece), as a guest of Dimitria Festival (Oct. 5-10, 2018). It\nwas then that the idea of this interview occurred<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"video-1\"><strong>VIDEO 1<\/strong><\/h6>\n\n\n\n<div align=\"center\" style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 12px\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"700\" height=\"393\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/UfZUFswYGCI?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\"><\/iframe><br>Founded in Paris in 1972 by Andres Bossard, Floriana Frassetto and Bernie Sch\u00fcrch, MUMMENSCHANZ has become one of the leading groups in Mime-Masque Theatre. Their production <i>You and Me<\/i> was part of the official opening ceremony of the 25th edition of the Festival (2018)\ufeff<\/div><br>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Dina, this is your fifth year as the artistic director of Cairo International Festival for Contemporary and Experimental Theatre and, as far as I know, the largest and most visible theatre event in Egypt. Do you feel any pressure? How demanding is this post, especially after the Festival\u2019s restart in 2014? What is your vision?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>The first year was hard\nlabor as we all needed to search, collect and restructure the Festival\u2019s lost\ndatabase. Gradually, things started picking up momentum. It\u2019s a very demanding\npost because it is year-round. I\u2019m a university professor, stage director and\nmother\u2014you can imagine the amount of joggling I have to do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We work as an executive\nboard, so we all build the Festival\u2019s vision together. As a collective vision,\nwe all would like to see the Festival growing as inclusive as possible, with as\nmany nations as possible and, in particular, with nations of the global south.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/3.Erik-Altorfer.jpg?resize=700%2C466&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-83\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/3.Erik-Altorfer.jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/3.Erik-Altorfer.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Swiss dramaturge and writer Erik Altorfer was invited by the Cairo International Festival for Contemporary and Experimental Theatre to participate in its 2018 programme with a writing workshop for young theatre writers. In addition to the workshop, Altorfer also gave a public talk about \u201cThe History of Swiss Theatre,\u201d moderated by Dina Amin. Photo: Courtesy of the Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Among the goals of the Festival is to create a forum for communication and dialogue among diverse populations and communities by means of the various forms of theatre and performance. D\u03bf you think that this goal has been achieved after 25 editions?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>This has always been the\nmission of the Festival and, every year, we try to expand the scope of dialogue\nand inclusion as best as we can. Can we do more? Certainly! The world changes constantly\nand the need for artistic dialogue changes too; we try to represent the moment\nand deepen our dialogue with it. Therefore, what we are currently trying to do\nis keep this dialogue going all year round, not only in September. This is\nreflected in our new approach of covering the proceedings of most of the\nfestivals in the Arab World on our webpage. This way, CIFCET encompasses\ntheatrical movements in the entire region and helps disseminate them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"449\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/4.Hadra-Hurra.jpg?resize=700%2C449&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-84\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/4.Hadra-Hurra.jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/4.Hadra-Hurra.jpg?resize=300%2C192&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Hadra Hurra<\/em> is a Syrian-German dance production funded by the German Foreign Ministry. Cairo International Festival, 2018. Photo: Adel Sabri, courtesy of the Festival.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>The title of the \u201crevised\u201d Festival now contains the words \u201ccontemporary\u201d and \u201cexperimental.\u201d How close are these words to the philosophy and practice of the Festival? Do you see any difference between the philosophy and the strategies of the old Festival (prior to 2010) and the one running in the last four years?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Changing the title of the\nfestival to now include \u201ccontemporary\u201d as well as \u201cexperimental\u201d is meant to\nmake the choice of plays broader and more inclusive of genres, styles and\nperiods. Thirty years ago, the founders of the Festival felt the need to\npopularize the avant-garde in its larger context, which is great because they have\nenabled us to build on this solid base. Today, we include both text-based as\nwell as non-textual performances; works based on physical movement and works ingrained\nin the mimetic; musicals, documentaries, biographies. There is no limit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"585\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/5.WONDERS.jpg?resize=700%2C585&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-85\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/5.WONDERS.jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/5.WONDERS.jpg?resize=300%2C251&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Wonder<\/em>, by the Fingers Theatre of Georgia, presented examples of a variety of ethnic dances performed by appropriately dressed fingers. Photo: Adel Sabri, courtesy of the Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Regarding the participation procedure, you seem to follow a different strategy. Instead of inviting artists to come to the Festival, you ask them to apply and, then, choose whom to include. Do you think this policy pays off? Does it bring to your Festival what you really want to have in terms of quality, contemporaneity, etc.?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>As you know, we are a state\nfestival, which means that we are financially under the auspices of the\nMinistry of Culture. This translates into two things: first, we receive a\nbudget from the government, and, second, our work is perceived as public service.\nTherefore, we do not generate any income from the Festival; rather, we work with\na tight budget as all performances, workshops and symposia participation are\nall free admission. These parameters make us very selective in the way we\nspend. So, all things considered, yes, it does allow us to bring high quality\nworks and artists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>I know that you have a screening committee for play selection. What are the criteria for the final selection? Any politics involved?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Purely artistic, no\npolitical or country representation considerations at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"459\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/6.Black-Coffee.jpg?resize=700%2C459&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-86\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/6.Black-Coffee.jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/6.Black-Coffee.jpg?resize=300%2C197&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Qahwa Sada<\/em> (<em>Black Coffee<\/em>), directed by Khaled Galal, was staged at the National Theatre and got full house during the Festival. Photo: Bassam Al Zoghby<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Just wondering: What is the impact of the Festival on local theatre life? Is there any dialogue between local and international theatre people, in terms of exchanges, collaborations, joined workshops, etc?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Actually, all the above constitute the festival\u2019s impact. Apart from the apparent benefit of presenting international performances to Egyptian and Arab audiences, the workshops open local artists to international trends and theatre makers, and, indeed, many collaborations have led to projects as a result. Furthermore, the symposium allows for intellectual exchanges and debates, which brings about joint research and translation possibilities. Not to mention, of course, that the daily gatherings before and after performances allow for the development of new friendships and real face-to-face conversations across the board. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"526\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/6a.CHINESE.jpg?resize=700%2C526&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-87\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/6a.CHINESE.jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/6a.CHINESE.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">China\u2019s National Theatre presented <em>Synopsis of the Prince of Lanling<\/em> at Ballon Theatre, as part of the Festival\u2019s 25th edition, 2018. Photo: Adel Sabri, courtesy of the Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Are you satisfied with the audience attendance? What feedback do you get? How receptive are they to the new and the experimental?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>You must understand that the Festival is very well attended by Egyptians as well as Arab audiences. Each participating troupe gets to perform twice, and, often, audiences request more shows, but we are bound by the schedule of course. Also, admission is free of charge for, as I mentioned before, the festival is public service; this fact brings more viewers to theatres as well. So, yes, we are very satisfied with our audience attendance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/7.CROWD_.jpg?resize=700%2C466&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-88\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/7.CROWD_.jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/7.CROWD_.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The festival is public service and this brings about more viewers. Photo: Adel Sabri, Courtesy of the Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>What is the situation of theatre in Egypt right now? Has the \u201cArab Spring\u201d changed anything in theatre\u2019s policies?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>The five years after the revolution were quite rocky for theatre and the arts, in general. However, during the last four years there has been a steady comeback to theatre productions, whether subsidized by the government or produced privately. Many festivals such as CIFCET are back in Cairo, and a number of regional ones have been founded lately. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>As a follow-up to my previous question: How close is theatre to local sociopolitical life?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Theatre and politics are sort of intertwined, so, of course, there are always political overtones in all performances. However, what has been on the rise lately is the aesthetics of physical (and non-verbal) and dance theatre. We\u2019ve also seen several documentary pieces.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>How similar or dissimilar is Egyptian theatre compared to Western theatre? I know, this is a huge topic that requires space and time to answer. Just very briefly, I would like to hear your view. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, indeed, this is question\nthat requires a very long answer, but the short one could be this: the audience\nis the differentiating factor. Egyptian audiences like to be active\nparticipants in performances, so the European fourth wall took longer to set in\nin Egypt than in other places.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>In the last few years, and especially during the \u201cArab Spring\u201d movement, we have been hearing and reading things about the position of women in Egyptian society. What is the situation of female playwrights now in Egypt? Do they have the same exposure and the same opportunities as male playwrights?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Women have a very strong presence in Egyptian theatre as actors, directors and critics; however, we still need more plays written by women. There are more novels, short stories and poetry by women than there are plays; perhaps, the reason for this lack is the nature of theatre itself. It requires long and late hours of work, and, very generally speaking, we are a conservative society.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>I understand. Who do you think are the most prominent women playwrights in Egypt right&nbsp;now? What is the focus of their work?<strong>&nbsp; <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I can think of two right away, Rasha Abdel Moneim and Nora Amin, both concerned\nwith social and philosophical issues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"556\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/8.Expedition-Pacific.jpg?resize=400%2C556&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-89\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/8.Expedition-Pacific.jpg?w=400&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/8.Expedition-Pacific.jpg?resize=216%2C300&amp;ssl=1 216w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Expedition Pacific<\/em> was performed at the small Hall of the Cairo Opera House during the 25th Cairo International Festival for Contemporary and Experimental Theatre. Photo: Adel Sabri, courtesy of the Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>And what about most frequently staged playwrights, foreign as well&nbsp;as Egyptian?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Most frequently staged, in terms of Egyptian playwrights, would be Sameh Mahran, President of CIFCET, Lenin al-Ramly, Abu Al-Ela Al-Salamouni and texts from the 1960s, which is considered the golden age of Arab drama. Regarding foreign playwrights, there are lots on the repertoire of Egyptian artists, most important of whom is Shakespeare, as well as writers that belong to the so-called tradition of the theatre of the absurd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>How do you explain their popularity?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>It stems from the timelessness of their themes as well as from the philosophical\/existential questions they raise.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>And what about directors? Whom do you consider as the most representative of contemporary, experimental theatre in Egypt now?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Essam el-Sayyed, Coordinator of CIFCET, is one of Egypt&#8217;s prominent\ndirectors. There is a number of important directors and I don&#8217;t want to miss\nmentioning their names, but the ones who come immediately to mind are: Khaled\nGalal, Hassan el-Geretly, Abeer Ali and Ahmad al-Attar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/9.HWANG_..jpg?resize=700%2C467&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-90\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/9.HWANG_..jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/9.HWANG_..jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Minister of Culture presenting award-winner David Henry Hwang the statue of Thoth, the god of penmanship, to honor his lifetime achievements, 2018. Photo: Courtesy of the Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Let me shift our discussion to money. Theatre is a very expensive art. In a world where money talks, do you think Egyptian theatre can survive without state funding? <strong><br><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>It can and it does. In the 1990s, a movement called \u201cfree theatre\u201d emerged specifically for that. It was to counter the impact of State-run theatre and to create opportunities for young independent artists. Today, there are several independent companies that not only produce their own work, but also curate their own festivals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>This is very encouraging to hear. I assume it is the exception rather than the rule. What I find worrisome is the gradual reduction of state funding for theatre. The Arts, in general, are not so appealing to the gurus of global economy. At least that\u2019s my impression. I hope I am wrong. Just let me ask you this: You travel a lot to various festivals held in Arab countries. Do you think there are things that make you feel optimistic regarding the future of Arab theatre?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>There are many things that make me optimistic. I find that fellow Arab artists are as keen on producing good and important theatrical works as any other in the world. Theatre artists here in Egypt, in the Arab World, across the world all endure difficulties whether in the form of war, censorship, budget cuts, lack of support or inclusion, yet all forge on to keep bringing about meaningful works. Don\u2019t you think this is a cause for optimism?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/10.Brandstetter.jpg?resize=700%2C466&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/10.Brandstetter.jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/10.Brandstetter.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">On its silver jubilee (2018) the Festival has honored seven main theatrical figures whose contributions have widened the horizons of performance and enriched the world of theatre. Among the 7 honorees was Dr. Gabriel Brandstetter, Professor of theatre and dance study at Freie Universit\u00e4t Berlin. Photo: Courtesy of the Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Yes, it is. Theatre\u2019s survival kit has kept it going for well over 25 centuries now. I hope it continues to fight for a better world. In Europe, as you know, two major political issues dominate: the rise of extreme right-wing parties and the refugee problem. Both issues are reflected in most new works now produced. I would like to ask how does Egyptian theatre reflect on these issues? I mean, do they have any impact on the plays written or staged?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Historically, the radical right and refugee problems (don\u2019t forget Palestine) have always been central issues that Arab theatre has had to deal with. Today, it affects Europe too, and we welcome plays that discuss it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/11.CLOSING.jpg?resize=700%2C467&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/11.CLOSING.jpg?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/11.CLOSING.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Closing of the Cairo International Festival for Contemporary and  <br>Experimental Theatre, 2018. Photo: Courtesy of the Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Here is my last question, sort of personal one. You are also involved with teaching. What are your plans from here onwards? <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Time permitting, I would\nlike to focus again on directing as well as do more translation. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Whatever you choose to do, I wish you the best.<a name=\"end\">&nbsp;<\/a> <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"140\" height=\"186\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/19\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2019\/04\/patsalidis.jpg?resize=140%2C186&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-94\" alignnone=\"\">\n\n\n\n<p><a name=\"end\" href=\"#back\">*<\/a><strong>Savas Patsalidis<\/strong>&nbsp;is Professor of theatre and performance history and theory in the School of English (Aristotle University, Thessaloniki), the Hellenic Open University and the Drama Academy of the National Theatre of Northern Greece. He is also a regular lecturer on the Graduate Programme of the Theatre Department at Aristotle University. He is the author of thirteen books on theatre and performance criticism\/theory and co-editor of another thirteen. His two-volume study,&nbsp;<em>Theatre, Society, Nation<\/em> (2010), was awarded first prize for best theatre study of the year. His latest book-length study <em>Theatre &amp; Theory II: About Topoi, Utopias and Heterotopias<\/em> was published in 2019 by University Studio Press. In addition to his academic activities, he works as a theatre reviewer for the journals<em> lavart<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>parallaxi<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>the greekplay project<\/em>. \u0397e is currently the president of the Hellenic Association of Theatre and Performing Arts Critics, member of the curators\u2019 team of Demitria Festival and the editor-in-chief of&nbsp;<em>Critical Stages\/Sc\u00e8nes critiques<\/em>, the journal of the International Association of Theatre Critics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-small-font-size\">Copyright <strong>\u00a9<\/strong> 2019 Savas Patsalidis<br><em>Critical Stages\/Sc\u00e8nes critiques<\/em> e-ISSN: 2409-7411<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/4.0\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.critical-stages.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/88x31.png?w=750&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Creative Commons Attribution International License\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-small-font-size\">This work is licensed under the<br>Creative Commons Attribution International License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Savas Patsalidis* Cairo\u2019s International Festival for Contemporary and Experimental Theatre (CIFCET) is a noncompetitive annual festival funded by the Ministry of Culture of the Arab Republic of Egypt. 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